downloading utilities go bye-bye

[brentech]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/04/04/copyright.lawsuit.ap/index.html

read that article.

What they talk about there, isn't what happened to my school, but a kid at my school (University of Toledo) ran the same thing. He had to shut it down due to this stuff. I would say it was a smart move on his behalf.

[snow]

Yeah no one wants to be fined millions of dollars, and that doesnt' even include video copyrights.

[Threeboy]

good thing the laws are really fuzzy in canada.

[brentech]

good thing the laws are really fuzzy in canada.
heh, not sure if that is sad...or good

[Devil]

good.

Don't you think those records companies are making enough money to pay themselves 3 meals by day ? I mean, fuck, we are fighting to have a good life, but those record comanies are complaining "OMFG, WE HAVE LOST 2 MILLIONS DOLLARS THIS YEAR, OMFG, WE ONLY MADE 1.2 BILLION THIS YEAR, OMFG, LET'S MAKE A NEW PROTECTION AND THEN PUT A NEW TAX ON THE CD-R BECAUSE THE USERS ARE BREAKING THESE PROTECTIONS, OMFG !"

WAKE UP AND PROTEST

[snow]

good.

Don't you think those records companies are making enough money to pay themselves 3 meals by day ? I mean, fuck, we are fighting to have a good life, but those record comanies are complaining "OMFG, WE HAVE LOST 2 MILLIONS DOLLARS THIS YEAR, OMFG, WE ONLY MADE 1.2 BILLION THIS YEAR, OMFG, LET'S MAKE A NEW PROTECTION AND THEN PUT A NEW TAX ON THE CD-R BECAUSE THE USERS ARE BREAKING THESE PROTECTIONS, OMFG !"

WAKE UP AND PROTEST

Good point, becuase you know 1.2 billion isn't enough. ;)

[Devil]

Capitalism goes wrong ! ... again

[chrisv]

Just wait until we have Copy Protection for Recordable Media project (CPRM) as part of our operating systems
The Copy Protection for Recordable Media project (CPRM) aims to make disk drive hardware the mediator in determining whether or not music and video clips can be played or copied. A joint initiative between Intel, Matsushita, IBM and Toshiba, the project aims to ensure that entertainment downloads are rigourously managed and cannot be duplicated, even from drive to drive.
Such technology effectively subverts the role of the police, the courts and even governing law. The precedents established by the use of blank cassette and video tapes are overridden and once again the dominant principle becomes guilty-till-proven-otherwise.

The Trusted Computer Platform Alliance (TCPA) plans to take this idea one step further by introducing a system in which the owner of the hardware will be little more than an administration assistant. All decisions on what can and can't be run will be in the hands of outside parties. The TCPA — an alliance of almost 200 hardware, software and entertainment industry corporations — is careful to distinguish their phraseology. A "trusted" device won't necessarily be any more secure, virus- free or reliable than its predecessors. It will however be trusted to do what its masters dictate.

"Trusted" architecture effectively partitions off areas of hardware and makes them inaccessible except via registered 'zones'. Just as Microsoft has now granted itself the right to manage your PC remotely. The advantages for the entertainment and software industries are manifold and best summed up in the phrase "total control". It will be possible to time- or play-limit downloads and restrict them, as with CPRM, to a single machine. Even access to data via a network will be controllable. Plus, with the inclusion of secure payment zones, it'll be possible to lease material or distribute it on a pay-per-use basis, even perhaps ensuring automatic payment for automatic software updates — whether the user considers them necessary or not.

Microsoft's version of TCPA — an architecture known as Palladium — is due for release next year, hand-in-hand with the next version of Windows. Like "trusted" before it, the company has now redefined the term "security". A research presentation last October was told that security in a Palladium context doesn't so much mean keeping outsiders out as securing the system from doing things its controllers don't want. Like extracting music tracks or copying CDs.

While there are some appeals and conveniences inherent in a CPRM/TCPA/Palladium-controlled world, it is unclear whether users will be happy to cede many of the rights they currently enjoy to an elite group of corporate overlords. Though, going on the near blanket acceptance of web bugs, profiling, spyware and general snooping provisions, it does seem depressingly likely.

Consumers forget that they are the ultimate arbiters in the marketplace. That they, quite literally, have the power of life and death over corporations. That they really can influence the Battle for the Desktop. Whether they choose to exercise that power remains to be seen.from PC World NZ (http://www.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/f2abee2df7582f36cc2569a4007e4ab9/13e75510835f8b1fcc256cf3000b2d7e!OpenDocument)

[Devil]

this is completely stupid... people won't buy these protected hard drives ... and also, some hackers will break the protection and the companies are going to argue about "we need to put more taxes, people break our protections"...

... hooray for capitalism !

[brentech]

... hooray for capitalism !

Would you like to develop a new system, that would work good...at all?

[Serious Sam]

good thing the laws are really fuzzy in canada.

You forgot interpol. If the piracy is large enough, the RCMP WILL co-operate with the International Police and seize your computers.

[Serious Sam]

... hooray for capitalism !

Would you like to develop a new system, that would work good...at all?

...

Communism?

Heheh ;)

[MulletMan]

good thing the laws are really fuzzy in canada.

You forgot interpol. If the piracy is large enough, the RCMP WILL co-operate with the International Police and seize your computers.

HAHA I doubt the RCMP would get off their asses to do anything about it. Damn beaurocrats!


Question: Why do people join the RCMP?
Answer: They're too lazy to work and too chicken to steal.

[Devil]

... hooray for capitalism !

Would you like to develop a new system, that would work good...at all?
Communism, without putting monney on useless army. Seriously, it could work.

I have to read about Karl Marx and his ideas, I heard some good stuff about him.

[brentech]

Communism, without putting monney on useless army. Seriously, it could work.

I have to read about Karl Marx and his ideas, I heard some good stuff about him.
Eh. Communism never really works for an established country. It is a great way to START a country though. But once that country has a foundation, it doesn't really go much farther.

You almost have to have competition. Reasons for people to want to work harder than the next guy.

[Serious Sam]

good thing the laws are really fuzzy in canada.

You forgot interpol. If the piracy is large enough, the RCMP WILL co-operate with the International Police and seize your computers.

HAHA I doubt the RCMP would get off their asses to do anything about it. Damn beaurocrats!


Question: Why do people join the RCMP?
Answer: They're too lazy to work and too chicken to steal.

Actually the RCMP are good, at times. Other times they are pathetic. My mom called 911, they deemed it not an emergency, and they took 1 1/2 hours to get to the scene of the small accident. The asshole who got hit, was starting to get threatning, and they (rcmp) didn't think that was important enough.

Sadly enough, when there is a high pursuit chase, EVERYSINGLE cop comes. Fuckers. :evil:

[chrisv]

Communism doesn't work because people are greedy. If you taught people to be communist from an early age, it might work.